Post by anawarrior on Oct 10, 2019 13:04:24 GMT -5
After a long time of thinking I decided to come back writing stories and fanfictions, but I kinda need help. When checking my last character and stories [some published, some not] I noticed that there was a lot of..cliches.
Many people hate them and some of them make the story less interesting so I need your comments about this.
What are your most hated/disliked cliches in stories? Or what you want to see more?
Paw Patrol Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double Whenever there's a problem Around Adventure Bay Ryder and his team of pups Will come and save the day Marshall! Rubble! Chase! Rocky! Zuma! Skye! Yeah! They're on the way! Paw Patrol Paw Patrol Whenever you're in trouble Paw Patrol, Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double No job's too big No pup's too small Paw Patrol! We're on a roll! So here we go! Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Ruff!
WHAT TO EXPECT IN CYOAS: - Will probably pick the option that seems the most stupid - Likes for bad things to happen - Likes to make characters do stupid things - Will probably try to make at least one main character die at any point
Hi, I'm Maxils! I'm an insane idiot who runs a CYOA. My favorite color is black. I have Autism, ADHD and more. I will talk about my pets all day if you let me. My favorite video game series fluctuates over time, but never my favorite characters (until new characters come out). If I say something that sounds rude, please point it out. Sometimes Autistic people have a hard time understanding things like that. I have multiple social media accounts, including deviantArt, Discord, YouTube and of course, ProBoards. This is the one place that keeps me sane in a house with two irritating siblings, my mom and, half the time, a tom of my brother's friends. I swear in secret, and I once did an irreversible bad. I was forgiven, thank StarClan. Anyways, if you have any questions about the forum or me, feel free to DM me! I almost always follow back those who follow me.
ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN DARK DARKER YET DARKER THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING THE SHADOWS CUTTING DEEPER PHOTON READINGS NEGATIVE THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING ... WHAT DO YOU TWO THINK
Paw Patrol Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double Whenever there's a problem Around Adventure Bay Ryder and his team of pups Will come and save the day Marshall! Rubble! Chase! Rocky! Zuma! Skye! Yeah! They're on the way! Paw Patrol Paw Patrol Whenever you're in trouble Paw Patrol, Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double No job's too big No pup's too small Paw Patrol! We're on a roll! So here we go! Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Ruff!
WHAT TO EXPECT IN CYOAS: - Will probably pick the option that seems the most stupid - Likes for bad things to happen - Likes to make characters do stupid things - Will probably try to make at least one main character die at any point
Hi, I'm Maxils! I'm an insane idiot who runs a CYOA. My favorite color is black. I have Autism, ADHD and more. I will talk about my pets all day if you let me. My favorite video game series fluctuates over time, but never my favorite characters (until new characters come out). If I say something that sounds rude, please point it out. Sometimes Autistic people have a hard time understanding things like that. I have multiple social media accounts, including deviantArt, Discord, YouTube and of course, ProBoards. This is the one place that keeps me sane in a house with two irritating siblings, my mom and, half the time, a tom of my brother's friends. I swear in secret, and I once did an irreversible bad. I was forgiven, thank StarClan. Anyways, if you have any questions about the forum or me, feel free to DM me! I almost always follow back those who follow me.
ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN DARK DARKER YET DARKER THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING THE SHADOWS CUTTING DEEPER PHOTON READINGS NEGATIVE THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING ... WHAT DO YOU TWO THINK
Post by River to stars on Oct 12, 2019 20:56:54 GMT -5
~I am the one River To Stars~ The bad guys are always incredibly stupid The good guys never get rid of the bad guy for- oh this is a big one PLOT CONVENIENCE!!
Picture is drawn by: ForsakenSpirits on deviantart
Paw Patrol Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double Whenever there's a problem Around Adventure Bay Ryder and his team of pups Will come and save the day Marshall! Rubble! Chase! Rocky! Zuma! Skye! Yeah! They're on the way! Paw Patrol Paw Patrol Whenever you're in trouble Paw Patrol, Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double No job's too big No pup's too small Paw Patrol! We're on a roll! So here we go! Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Ruff!
WHAT TO EXPECT IN CYOAS: - Will probably pick the option that seems the most stupid - Likes for bad things to happen - Likes to make characters do stupid things - Will probably try to make at least one main character die at any point
Hi, I'm Maxils! I'm an insane idiot who runs a CYOA. My favorite color is black. I have Autism, ADHD and more. I will talk about my pets all day if you let me. My favorite video game series fluctuates over time, but never my favorite characters (until new characters come out). If I say something that sounds rude, please point it out. Sometimes Autistic people have a hard time understanding things like that. I have multiple social media accounts, including deviantArt, Discord, YouTube and of course, ProBoards. This is the one place that keeps me sane in a house with two irritating siblings, my mom and, half the time, a tom of my brother's friends. I swear in secret, and I once did an irreversible bad. I was forgiven, thank StarClan. Anyways, if you have any questions about the forum or me, feel free to DM me! I almost always follow back those who follow me.
ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN DARK DARKER YET DARKER THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING THE SHADOWS CUTTING DEEPER PHOTON READINGS NEGATIVE THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING ... WHAT DO YOU TWO THINK
Post by Hollywing the on Oct 14, 2019 21:10:45 GMT -5
A particular kind of plot convenience I've seen sometimes is that the main character (sometimes with friends) is cornered by an enemy of some sort. Suddenly, out of nowhere, someone comes to help them!
And a cliche that I hate because it's so stupid is when a character jumps in the way to save another character and dies in the process (i.e. Spottedleaf's second death). Jump AT the enemy, not IN FRONT OF.
Formerly a Guest (Hollywing, Unnamed For Now, Heather <3)
Paw Patrol Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double Whenever there's a problem Around Adventure Bay Ryder and his team of pups Will come and save the day Marshall! Rubble! Chase! Rocky! Zuma! Skye! Yeah! They're on the way! Paw Patrol Paw Patrol Whenever you're in trouble Paw Patrol, Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double No job's too big No pup's too small Paw Patrol! We're on a roll! So here we go! Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Ruff!
WHAT TO EXPECT IN CYOAS: - Will probably pick the option that seems the most stupid - Likes for bad things to happen - Likes to make characters do stupid things - Will probably try to make at least one main character die at any point
Hi, I'm Maxils! I'm an insane idiot who runs a CYOA. My favorite color is black. I have Autism, ADHD and more. I will talk about my pets all day if you let me. My favorite video game series fluctuates over time, but never my favorite characters (until new characters come out). If I say something that sounds rude, please point it out. Sometimes Autistic people have a hard time understanding things like that. I have multiple social media accounts, including deviantArt, Discord, YouTube and of course, ProBoards. This is the one place that keeps me sane in a house with two irritating siblings, my mom and, half the time, a tom of my brother's friends. I swear in secret, and I once did an irreversible bad. I was forgiven, thank StarClan. Anyways, if you have any questions about the forum or me, feel free to DM me! I almost always follow back those who follow me.
ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN DARK DARKER YET DARKER THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING THE SHADOWS CUTTING DEEPER PHOTON READINGS NEGATIVE THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING ... WHAT DO YOU TWO THINK
Post by Hollywing the on Oct 17, 2019 19:48:21 GMT -5
note after I wrote this: I don't know what I was trying to do here.
Even though it's used often, I definitely understand why the good guys win. When someone reads a story, they hope it has a satisfying ending. Since the protagonist of the story is usually a good guy, one of the most satisfying endings is in which the protagonist succeeds. An author could make the protagonist a bad guy and let evil triumph then, but a protagonist with views that readers disagree with are usually unliked. One example that I can think off the top of my head in which this isn't really the case is Mapleshade's Vengeance where Mapleshade sort of wins but also becomes over-rated by fans.
The damsel-in-distress trope is really interesting, but I think that the problem with it is that not many people have creative ideas with it. Most of the time they use it for romance or something.
I actually kind of like clever/strategic/manipulative villains because it's a way to make them scary, especially if they actually outsmart the good guys. Strong/bloodthirsty villains, on the other hand, I don't like quite as much because they're not very realistic or relatable. But a mixture of all those things would make a great villain if done right.
Formerly a Guest (Hollywing, Unnamed For Now, Heather <3)
I hate the cliche where someone joins the fight and helps one side win. It is just stupid. I do not like the idea where the hero is on the brink of death and then poof! someone helps them and gives them life. Adding onto this, I especially hate where the protagonist is somewhere where they wake up and then someone is like, "Thanks to you, we won the battle!"
Paw Patrol Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double Whenever there's a problem Around Adventure Bay Ryder and his team of pups Will come and save the day Marshall! Rubble! Chase! Rocky! Zuma! Skye! Yeah! They're on the way! Paw Patrol Paw Patrol Whenever you're in trouble Paw Patrol, Paw Patrol We'll be there on the double No job's too big No pup's too small Paw Patrol! We're on a roll! So here we go! Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Whoa-oh-oh Paw Patrol Ruff!
my friends: mapleheartstar catsquid spoots hollywing river to stars ruff nav mooks Ezio quickclaw quietstar Dapplemoon/Crowflight/Mothpool ravenclaw (hey that's more than i have irl! )
WHAT TO EXPECT IN CYOAS: - Will probably pick the option that seems the most stupid - Likes for bad things to happen - Likes to make characters do stupid things - Will probably try to make at least one main character die at any point
Hi, I'm Maxils! I'm an insane idiot who runs a CYOA. My favorite color is black. I have Autism, ADHD and more. I will talk about my pets all day if you let me. My favorite video game series fluctuates over time, but never my favorite characters (until new characters come out). If I say something that sounds rude, please point it out. Sometimes Autistic people have a hard time understanding things like that. I have multiple social media accounts, including deviantArt, Discord, YouTube and of course, ProBoards. This is the one place that keeps me sane in a house with two irritating siblings, my mom and, half the time, a tom of my brother's friends. I swear in secret, and I once did an irreversible bad. I was forgiven, thank StarClan. Anyways, if you have any questions about the forum or me, feel free to DM me! I almost always follow back those who follow me.
ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN DARK DARKER YET DARKER THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING THE SHADOWS CUTTING DEEPER PHOTON READINGS NEGATIVE THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING ... WHAT DO YOU TWO THINK