Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Nov 26, 2017 16:14:18 GMT -5
Even if physically it doesn't look like you necessarily 'should have been born', as in, you were unplanned or whatever, God himself still wanted you to be born. The way you were born does not dictate your worth or whether you were accidental or not. The FACT you were born means you have a purpose.
No one is really an accident, and I've encountered many people who feel they are due to their circumstances. This is wholly a lie from the evil one, because he doesn't want you to believe your worth, he doesn't want you to know who you are: a child of God. Because once you acknowledge who you are, a child of God, then you accept God's presence within you, and you are powerful because you know who you are and you know Who will take care of you, and thus you know that there's nothing to fear and that nothing then can defeat you. That terrifies the evil one and he does everything within his power to make you believe you are nothing, you are an accident, whatever. The truth is you are good. You are worthy. You have value. You are royalty, because you are the child of a King. Spiritual gifts aren't necessarily like things you would find in the movies, if you know what I mean. They are powerful because they are from God, but there isn't really any reason to doubt in your spiritual gifts. Here's one of the reasons why. After Baptism, everyone receives these spiritual gifts. There's a certain amount of them, they all have names. And so everyone baptized in some sense has 'Understanding'. It's not like you're the 'chosen one' or whatever and you gotta be Anakin Skywalker and save the empire. It's just these cool little things you receive from God being within you. It's like a movement of the Holy Spirit who is now in you. Also, these 'signs' your mom receives, look.... some people may hear God louder than others. Doesn't mean everyone receives blatant things either. The weakest of souls are the ones God speaks to loudest. So honestly if God doesn't speak to you as loudly you should take it as a compliment. Like, just because your mom receives signs doesn't mean everyone does, and it DOESN'T mean you should. God will speak to you in his own way, in his own time. You gotta be open, and receive. And patient. Also I'm sorry your parents have divorced. You are in my prayers.
Let me know if you have any followup questions or anything else you're wondering.
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Post by Lilystar of SproutClan on Dec 9, 2017 23:20:28 GMT -5
*hugs everyone around while crying a bit* I'm honestly scared. I can't remember if I am accepted, even with my spiritual gift. I've never been baptized. My mom says it's the gift of "understanding". And they've been divorced before my first birthday, I've gotten used to being alone all the time. And right now downstairs another aurgument is starting.* heads toward closet*
Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Dec 10, 2017 13:35:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry about your parents I'll be praying for you. Also don't mind what your mom says about the 'gift'. Don't focus on it, don't think about it, it doesn't really affect you much. If you're baptized u can still receive all the gifts that all who are baptized get (again, doesn't necessarily make u 'special' or the 'chosen one', it's just some nifty things the Holy Spirit moves in you to guide you through your journey in the faith). Stay strong, God's got you in this. If you need any help in the trouble that you're going through you can come to me. I'll be here : )
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Hey so, I'd love to join this thread. Just not sure if I can. Although I do believe in God, I'm not the typical ''Christian,'' and I don't want to start any debates or anything.
Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Dec 10, 2017 16:12:48 GMT -5
You can participate of course xP As long as you don't like outright go "you're wrong and this is how it is" or aren't accusatory, no debates will really be started here. This is more a thread for fellowship and community and whatnot, and sharing our faith life and maybe seeing how we can help each other improve it.
Ye you can ask some questions O:
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Obviously these can be very difficult to answer, especially when views can clash so easily and feelings can be wounded in a flash. I don't necessarily have an opinion on the community, let's start off that way. Everyone is a human being, right? Everyone is a child of God. So I look at them as people, as children, as my brothers and sisters, and to me that is their identity, as well as anyone else's, because it makes sense. I'm not going to say it is 'wrong' to be in this community. I really, REALLY need to tread over this carefully, so easily can these words be taken to a drastically terrible extent. I believe that God had a plan, and that two people on this earth fulfill that plan; I think of it like this, as men and women being two sides of one half and when they come together they are, as God calls, 'one flesh'. To me, a man and a man would be like trying to fit two of the same sides together. I could really go more into depth with this, if you truly desired me to, yet I don't know how well it would be received. If you want to hear more about it you can PM me. Now, God's plan was for human beings to mirror himself, as we are made in his image and likeness. And so, by nature, we are intended to be like him. (This is part of the reason why Adam and Eve made such a mistake eating the Fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. The serpent told them that God did not want them to be 'like gods', and so he forbade them the fruit. The reality of this is, we are intended to be LIKE GOD. But when they gave in to sin, they became 'like gods' in the sense that, they made their own rules. They decided what was right and wrong. Even though they were not correct about their notions of good and evil. This is what it meant, and this is why God forbade them the fruit. By eating it they rejected becoming LIKE GOD and they chose to be their own gods, and rulers of their own life). So, if we are made in Gods image and likeness, what is God's plan for us? It can be simply put this way. God is a trinity, three in one. The father gives love to the son, the son receives that love and gives it back. The love made between them becomes a third person, and it is called the Holy Spirit. Let's apply that to humanity. The man gives love to the woman, the woman receives that love and gives it back. The love made between them becomes a third person, and they name it nine months later. This is God's plan for us; not to simply 'do the do' and 'populate the earth'. We're not so crude. God's plan is that we REFLECT Him. Therefore, in my view, if people are not reflecting God, they are not acting according to God's plan. I do not hate the people that engage in the LGBT community. I feel that they are not living to God's full plan. Yet, I do not believe it is their fault, or that they should be 'forced to be straight'. People of the LGBT community admittedly present ultimatums: "accept me, or you hate me". So you have two options. Yet, I have heard Christians present a third option: Chastity. It is people who experience this attraction living in purity for God and acting in His plan without doing anything uncomfortable to them. Instead they engage in intentional friendships with the same sex, which is incredibly important, essential, and beautiful. Same sex friendship is gorgeous and such a gift, and incredibly rare in today's day and age. If we are honest, if we see two of the same sex becoming close, we assume it is not friendship, and we'll say, "Oh, it looks like they've got a bit of a bromance going there..." We assume the relationship and therefore do not give it a chance to blossom into something very pure. To answer your third question: I think someone can certainly claim to be Christian and still engage in the LGBT community. No one is stopping them. There are plenty of people who claim to be Christian but never go to church, never pray; they just like the title because they think it makes them a good person. This is very difficult, again, to talk about, so let me disclaim: I am not going to push one way or the other. I am not going to say, "you are not allowed in our club bc ur different" or whatever nonsense... The point is, God made a plan. There is a third option. Whether or not you choose to take the option is your choice. But it is true that if you do not choose God's plan, you choose against Him. I do not say suppress attraction or whatever and pretend and put on a mask. I am saying, again, there is a third option, of purity. It may be a difficult one, but the difficult roads make saints, and to be a saint is the goal of a Christian.
Last Edit: Dec 11, 2017 17:01:04 GMT -5 by Hollyleaf ღ
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I asked these questions because I do identify as a Christian, and a part of the LGBT community as well. I don't just claim to be Christian to be seen as a good person or anything like that. I've always believed in God because of my mom. My mom had always told me that God loves all His children, even if they do not believe in him, even if they are LGBT, etc, so my views are kind of 'you can do what you want.' She did tell me we all were born with a task, and that God has a plan, and everything that happens to you is part of that plan. I believe there is no such thing as Hell, as He would never send His children there because He loves them. If you do make mistakes (not such as being gay, but things like killing another person, etc) He will always give you another chance in your next life.
I feel like it's a very positive way to view everything. And it's the way I get through life easier. However, like I said, it's not typically "Christian" and I only know a couple of people that view it the same way, that's why I'm kind of afraid of calling myself a "Christian", but I would not know what else to call it. I know I'll get a lot of hate for it (not saying from you, you seem like a good person) as some people would strongly disagree and would love to tell me how wrong I am 24/7.
Anyway, sadly I lost my mom last year, and my dad doesn't believe in God. She was pretty much the only one I could discuss religion with, that's why I've come to this thread.
However it's still your thread, so if you don't want to "agree to disagree" then I'll go. I don't want to cause any arguments or hate with this, I'm just sharing my views and I hope this doesn't make you angry or anything ^^'
Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Dec 14, 2017 17:48:33 GMT -5
I'm sorry you lost your mom. The same has happened to me very recently, maybe 5 weeks ago. We can grow together in that similarity and be there for each other, and I will be open to answering more questions if you have any.
I wouldn't tell you not to participate in this thread, that's not really the theme of it and it would be uncharacteristic. Of course you're welcome here, to come and discuss, maybe just to talk, and for us all to be a community that at least believes in God.
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