Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Oct 10, 2017 18:16:34 GMT -5
It's stylized. Not everything has to perfectly fit the anatomy of a real life cat to a T. Scarcely any of the warrior cat fanart out there does. I respect your opinion, but I feel that your standards are a bit high :/
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Post by guesttheguest on Oct 10, 2017 19:52:26 GMT -5
I'm a perfectionist, but i don't say that it needs to be like a real life cat, i said that i would like something that reminds more a cat, it's up to the artist if they will take my critique and use in your style or not.
Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Oct 11, 2017 17:21:46 GMT -5
If you're going to be a perfectionist, at least critique your own art to improve. In this case you can't tell other people what they need to do in order to improve because the 'improvisation' is only your idea of the standard perfect cat. Sometimes the worst thing for a person to be when it comes to viewing another's art is a perfectionist. It can help you perfect your own art, but even then that will come to a fault. There are places where critique is understandable, helpful, kind. You only want people to draw the way you think art to look, and then you critique their art; that's not a nice thing to do, and it isn't constructive. There is a time and a place. I'm sorry to scold, but this critique is not necessary, and it could cause others to feel bad about themselves.
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Post by guesttheguest on Oct 11, 2017 17:36:35 GMT -5
That's it, i critique my own art to improve everyday. And another thing that i would like to say, it's my opnion, i don't expect something perfect, all critiques are opnions, and i'm not obligated to think what everyone think, art looks depends on what you see, and i don't like how they did some parts of the drawing, also, i don't care if people think is rude or not, i already felt ashamed by my old drawings, i also was scolded by my old animations, and i just continued.And i didn't understand why my critique wasn't valid at all, i did not tried to be rude and i even made a compliment to the artist, i just said that i don't like how they drew the long legs and the muzzle, which means that they do not need to change many things.
Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Oct 11, 2017 17:54:31 GMT -5
Let's just leave it simple for now, since I don't know what else to do. If they don't ask for critique, don't give it. I think that's the best course of action right now.
Also what I was pointing out before was yes, when it comes to your own art, being a perfectionist can be helpful, but it can also be a trial; you could see your art and always think it is bad and begin feeling bad about yourself. Your art is good, let me tell you here.
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Post by guesttheguest on Oct 11, 2017 18:08:35 GMT -5
I'm a perfectionist, but i see my art as good, however, it needs improvement, because if you think it's just perfect we never improve, but if you think that it's all bad, we end up feeling bad with ourselves.
Also, saying '' If they don't ask for critique, don't give it.'' is just like, you say ''If you don't like it, you don't need to say'' or ''If they don't ask for a opinion, don't give it'' which sounds childish, because, if you can say it's good, they will never try to make something different and will always stay the same, probably will end up in the same style and the art teachers or even other experienced artist will critique them harshly, so, i'm not the only one who thinks that, there are people who are even more worst than me when it's about criticism.
Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Oct 11, 2017 19:17:44 GMT -5
Opinion is good. It is a right we are created with. That is a certainty. But like any right, we can use it for evil. We have a right to bear guns, but the wrong people may misuse this right. Just like this, freedom of speech has its limits. I'm glad you find value in your opinion. The problem is that you are trying to force your opinion on others. If you don't like it, fine. That doesn't mean it's objectively bad. Does that make sense? I admire how you stick to your values, but there must always be a limit. If I dislike bees, do I need to go and tell the bees how much I dislike them, and even stomp on them? No. They'll only sting me. They'll only die. People are flesh and blood with feelings. Critiques, in the right place, and constructive, can be good. But it can also be stinging. It can be emotionally killing. Words are precious. Use them carefully. You never know if they can actually harm another. In the mean time, please take some time of your own to look over art and try to pick out the good things. Find things you admire, not things you dislike. Picking art apart destroys the entire purpose of the activity. Appreciating it feels good for the artist, and the viewer.
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Post by ✞~Spottedleaf ~✞ on Oct 11, 2017 19:38:00 GMT -5
Hollyleaf is right. You can have your own opinion, but it does not always need to be voiced.
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Post by ✞~Spottedleaf ~✞ on Oct 11, 2017 19:42:20 GMT -5
I may have to lock this thread before it gets out of hand. We can take this conversation to PM's, but we probably shouldn't keep flooding the thread with these comments. It doesn't really go with the topic.
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