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Post by Rnouki on Jan 1, 2016 22:20:42 GMT -5
Feel free to post your opinion, after all, it's discussion!
Courier new = Thunderclan's side Comic Sans MS = Riverclan's side
Arial = Neutral
Intro Most people who've read Warriors have read about Riverclan and Thunderclan fighting over Sunningrocks. I thought about this, and I wondered, whose side would most people be on?
Reasoning Here is the reasoning of each clan, why they fought for Sunningrocks, from the point of view of a warrior of that clan.
Riverclan's - We owned Sunningrocks originally.
- Thunderclan couldn't even access them before.
- Our ancestors warmed their pelts on their rocks! Thunderclan's didn't!
Thunderclan's - They are on our side of the river, it only makes sense!
- How are their elders going to access them now?
Staging a "debate" Who should own Sunningrocks? Riverclan! Thunderclan! Why? Riverclan owned Sunningrocks first, Thunderclan stole them from Riverclan! They're on Thunderclan's side of the river, how would Riverclan's elders swim to them? How come Thunderclan just assumed they could take them? Riverclan had owned them for many seasons! Sunningrocks warmed the pelts of Riverclan's ancestors, not Thunderclan's! It was the will of Starclan! The river changed course! Starclan did not change the flow of the river just for Thunderclan! They never have done anything like that! Starclan did not grow the forest for Thunderclan to live in!
My Opinion: Riverclan should have Sunningrocks. What's yours?
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Post by ✯~Rippleshadow~✯ on Jan 1, 2016 22:30:37 GMT -5
Well, I haven't read the books for a looooong time, but I remember I distinctly felt like Thunderclan owned Sunningrocks.
It doesn't really have anything to do with who owned sunningrocks first, or their location, or whatever. Thunderclan and Riverclan battled over that piece of land and Thunderclan won, so they had the right to call it theirs. And if they battled over it again and Riverclan won, it would be Riverclan's piece of land.
It's against warrior code, but I kind of wish they could share it.
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Post by Rnouki on Jan 1, 2016 22:33:28 GMT -5
Well, I haven't read the books for a looooong time, but I remember I distinctly felt like Thunderclan owned Sunningrocks. It doesn't really have anything to do with who owned sunningrocks first, or their location, or whatever. Thunderclan and Riverclan battled over that piece of land and Thunderclan won, so they had the right to call it theirs. And if they battled over it again and Riverclan won, it would be Riverclan's piece of land. It's against warrior code, but I kind of wish they could share it.
That last sentence was what I first thought when I read the books. XD ^^^
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 22:39:16 GMT -5
Like Ripple, I haven't read Warriors in a while, but I always thought that ThunderClan should have them only because it's on their side of the river. It makes sense that way.
EDIT: Also I remember some cat saying that the RC cats' paws are too big since they're built for swimming, so they can't use it to hunt unlike TC. It wouldn't affect RC anyway since they can still use the river to hunt in winter.
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Post by ✯~Rippleshadow~✯ on Jan 1, 2016 22:51:23 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Phoe makes a good point about the hunting. Sunningrocks was a very valuable piece of land for Thunderclan to hunt, while I think Riverclan mainly wanted it as a spot for leisure.
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Post by 🍂 Elkpelt 🍂 on Jan 2, 2016 22:58:20 GMT -5
Personally my preference is Riverclan mostly because that's my spirit clan but... anyways if you think about it how does it help riverclan if they swim accost get dry but on the way back they just get wet again. Really...
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Post by ✯~Rippleshadow~✯ on Jan 2, 2016 23:30:07 GMT -5
Personally my preference is Riverclan mostly because that's my spirit clan but... anyways if you think about it how does it help riverclan if they swim accost get dry but on the way back they just get wet again. Really... It sounds like you don't want Riverclan to have Sunningrocks xD |
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Post by Rnouki on Jan 3, 2016 10:41:05 GMT -5
(I personally don't like Thunderclan and that might be affecting my opinion. I tend to see them as the clan that tries to follow the warrior code but ends up breaking it more than following it, even if that isn't necessarily true.) As for the big paws thing, I've never found anything about Riverclan cats having big paws other than there. Maybe it's just me? I have seen many times over that Thunderclans' founder had big paws though.  They also mentioned that their pelts wouldn't blend into the rocks, and I looked at the allegiances at the time, and Thunderclan isn't much better. Tabbies, black, browns and a few silver were in both clans. More so in Riverclan, but that's a temporary thing (for both clans) seeing as kits will be born with different pelts. Last night, I actually was sitting in bed thinking about it and Though, what if they belonged to nobody, or what if they belonged to the elders only? I also remembered the stepping stones. Too bad pride probably kept the clans from finding a more peaceful solution. It's sort of like the battles in Enter the Clans in the warrior code part. I believe it was the one about not killing to win a fight? The clans could have stopped and found a more non-violent way, but pride kept them fighting, or something like that. I actually don't think they stated what the reason was that they were fighting... weird. Sorry for the off topic ending. XD |
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Post by 🍂 Elkpelt 🍂 on Jan 3, 2016 17:12:01 GMT -5
Personally my preference is Riverclan mostly because that's my spirit clan but... anyways if you think about it how does it help riverclan if they swim accost get dry but on the way back they just get wet again. Really... It sounds like you don't want Riverclan to have Sunningrocks xD lol i really dont know anything right now XD |
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Post by beech on Jan 14, 2016 16:48:02 GMT -5
If it's on ThunderClan's side of the river, then it should belong to ThunderClan. It would be as illogical as ThunderClan owning a piece of the land on RiverClan's side of the river.
I haven't read the books in a while, but it makes more sense that way. (In my opinion at least. I have a weird way of looking at things though)
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Post by Kätzchen on Jan 14, 2016 17:27:36 GMT -5
all of your opinions are wrong all your sunningrocks are belong to me
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Post by ḾṎᏨḳḭṈgᏨᾀ℄℄ on Jan 17, 2016 17:24:14 GMT -5
I've debated on this for a long time, and to be honest, I've come to the conclusion that it should belong to RiverClan!
Then again, I'm a RiverClan cat. <: It would be more logical for ThunderClan to have it, because prey is scarcer in leafbare and that's another place to hunt, whilst RiverClan can still hunt fine in Leaf-Bare, even when the lakes freeze because they take chunks of ice and wait for it to thaw to get the fishies out. (:
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Post by Hollyleaf ღ on Jan 21, 2016 19:01:37 GMT -5
ThunderClan.
Come on, the river went away and was replaced with land so it was a part of ThunderClan's territory and there's like no point in RiverClan even being there even though yeah cats like to rest under heat and it feels nice
But seriously IT SHOULD GO TO THUNDERCLAN
EVEN THOUGH IT'S KINDA TOO LATE NOW
OH WELL
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